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Post by Moe Centers on Oct 4, 2007 22:20:01 GMT -5
What do yall think?
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Post by combs on Oct 5, 2007 9:40:15 GMT -5
Think it is down now. No trans breaks all footbrake you arent going to get cars. What about the ken mor No super street and no trans brakes... Hmmmm I bet London gets the crowd this year. that is where all of us is going. It sucks I have been to the Blugrass nationals for 25 years. When something is that good for that many years why why do you change it. have fun racing for a cut purse.
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Post by Chris_Butcher on Oct 7, 2007 19:54:15 GMT -5
i think for the car count it needs to be no-box,but then again you through the thing about cheating back in the picture,so easy to do with a trans-brake.
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Post by Travis 228 on Oct 7, 2007 20:05:25 GMT -5
Not if the cars are checked and you know what to look for.It dosen't take that long to check them either.
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Post by merrilld on Oct 8, 2007 8:38:08 GMT -5
Hey Butch, enlighten me on how cheating is easy. Does it involve special colored wire ;D  We hav'nt figured it out yet  |
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Post by flemster on Oct 8, 2007 9:02:41 GMT -5
I was told by a few people saturday that they are gonna allow cars with a box to LEAVE THEM IN THE CAR. thats the most stupid thing I have ever heard... If they do that , everyone will be pissed.. Of course how many people have they caught (THAT WE KNOW OF) over the years and they havent done a thing to them.. If I ran a track and someone was caught running a box in no box and using it.. I would make an example of them.. let everyone know what they did and not allow them to race for 1 year.. I know of 3 people over the years that have been caught with a box in there car and nothing was done to them....  |
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Post by masonracing on Oct 8, 2007 11:58:45 GMT -5
Good thing my box is hid well in the Chevy II 8-)
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Post by masonracing on Oct 8, 2007 12:01:48 GMT -5
That is really stupid letting box cars keep the box in. I can see that they want more racers running both classes but that is just insane.
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Post by malibu2x33 on Oct 8, 2007 15:43:56 GMT -5
thats just asking someone to cheat
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Post by RawePower on Oct 8, 2007 17:05:29 GMT -5
Agreed; leaving allowing the box to stay in the car while running no-box is stupid. No wonder people are paranoid. My box can go in or come out of the car in 30 seconds. Anyone who has watched me between classes at Thorn Hill or TriState can attest to that.
If the box isn't allowed in the car, it's not hard at all to catch a cheater. That wire has to go somewhere! If the transbrake wiring isn't easily traceable, a car won't pass a real tech inspection anyway.
P.S. I voted for allowing transbrakes.
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Post by jjentracing on Oct 8, 2007 19:14:33 GMT -5
I agree with Rawpower and malibu2x33. Leaving the box in the car SHOULD!!! not be an option. You could still put in a little delay if you were too quick... Its not rocket science. My opinion is if a box is caught or suspected it be checked out and if its found you sit out for a long time! Bottom line. I see no problem with a car running both classes IF it has the box wired with a plug and is not in the car. Glad to see some MT Park guys at BRP this weekend. Hope you guys had a good time. ;D JJ P.S. I also voted to allow transbrakes. |
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Post by masonracing on Oct 8, 2007 20:22:40 GMT -5
Whats your opinion on the adjustable transbrakes. I do not have one in the chevy II but have run one in the dragster. Heck, I won a box race in the dragster with the adjustable button. Buttons now can be adjusted to .400 of a second. I think its name is the axe. Just wondering.
Ps. I voted to allow transbrakes because i s**k at footbraking.
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Post by RawePower on Oct 8, 2007 20:56:19 GMT -5
The adjustable transbrake buttons are near a fine line. They are nothing more than a mechanical delay box. But, if we didn't have adjustable buttons, there are a miriad of other ways to achieve the same function: tire pressure, front and rear, shock settings, tire diameter, RPM, converters, gear ratios, throttle stops (even mechanical) and the list continues. So, where do we draw the line? If buttons are disallowed, should we be allowed to adjust our own ignition timing?
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Post by RawePower on Oct 8, 2007 20:59:31 GMT -5
I should add that there are just as many ways to adjust the reaction time of a footbrake car.
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Post by Chris_Butcher on Oct 8, 2007 21:18:36 GMT -5
i think it should be a electronics class all-run,and a footbrake class myself,but for the car count you gotta let these guys use there buttons.
and adjusting timing,tire pressue,rpm etc has nothin to do with the class being no-box or footbrake.
the long buttons are a different story,if your gonna allow them you should just allow a box,its about the same thing i got 1 of them myself,wont be long racers will be leaving off the top bulbs with them.
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Post by malibu2x33 on Oct 8, 2007 21:26:55 GMT -5
i agree
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Post by jjentracing on Oct 8, 2007 21:27:44 GMT -5
It would be nice to have the footbrake class and a transbrake, but like Chris said, there just not enough cars for both.
I would agree the adjustable buttons are a fine line.
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Post by RawePower on Oct 8, 2007 21:36:55 GMT -5
and adjusting timing,tire pressue,rpm etc has nothin to do with the class being no-box or footbrake. My point, exactly, however mudied I may have made it. Long buttons do the exact same thing. They just make it easier, with a longer range of adjustment. |
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Post by merrilld on Oct 9, 2007 6:31:30 GMT -5
Ben you and dad going down for the Ken Mor race this year? Brandon and I not sure yet, as our plans seem to change quite often anymore .
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Post by flemster on Oct 9, 2007 7:07:35 GMT -5
I wont run an axe, but I will have a 5-0 button in the new car.
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We hav'nt figured it out yet 
